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Isa Nacewa's big hit on Dan Hipkiss at the Rec

And you guys want to see shoulder charges? Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlQNhLos1E


Nacewa's hit wasn't a shoulder charger. He wrapped his left arm. Hipkiss just bounced backwards immediately after the hit.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Isa Nacewa's big hit on Dan Hipkiss at the Rec

I don't see the problem. He hits him in the chest with the arm of the shoulder he hit him with wrapped. Hipkiss bounced back and fell over as soon as Nacewa's left shoulder hit him. How could his other arm have wrapped? Good call by the referee to let it go.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Three refs take a tumble as they get in on the action

He got nailed by Donald with no arms. Was actually a hard enough hit on him.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Three refs take a tumble as they get in on the action

Haha nice, RD. Roman Poite took a decent hit last night as well. Almost a two way tackle.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Alesana Tuilagi and Tom Wood red carded following touchline brawl

Good to know you understand a bit about gravity, I think you're missing the point though. I'm not trying to discuss gravity or anything. Still not sure how you think Ashton "slipped" up though. Doesn't really make sense. Anyway, it's pretty clear he grabs his hair with one hand and his shoulder with the other (unless you're an Ashton fan, of course).

Not really... I don't know what was going through Geordan Murphy's head when he started throwing punches, but I know he did it on purpose. I see your logic, but use a bit of common sense as well.

I can say he went for the hair for the reasons I wrote before. Did you not read them? It wasn't exactly a long paragraph man:

"I get "purposefully going for the hair" because he had to move closer to Tuilagi to grab him by the hair. Ashton waited until he was close enough to pull him by his hair before he made his move. The higher up you are tackling, the closer you have to be to a player. He could have tackled the man sooner by going for his legs. He could easily have grabbed him by the arm, shoulders, jersey (I'm not sure why, but Tuilagi's jersey is baggier than most backs'). And then dragging him out by his hair was unnecessary and cowardly. Again, he could have gone for any other part of him as almost every other professional player does in these situations."

Even if you forget about the initial pulling of his hair, I don't really see how dragging him out on his hands and knees by his hair could be accidental. You'd have to be a blind Northampton fan to think that.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Alesana Tuilagi and Tom Wood red carded following touchline brawl

It's a shame we have people complaining when we get a nice punch up when there are plenty of place where they can discuss the match.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Alesana Tuilagi and Tom Wood red carded following touchline brawl

1) The video is recent. The incident is not.

2) No I wouldn't. And professionals don't purposely target a man's hair in this situation either, except Ashton. And hair pulling is not specifically mentioned in the rules, but it would be breaking these rules:

10.4 (m) Acts contrary to good sportsmanship. A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship in the playing enclosure.
Sanction: Penalty kick

10.4 (e) Dangerous tackling. A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously.
Sanction: Penalty kick

A player must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. A tackle around the opponent’s neck or head is dangerous play.
Sanction: Penalty kick

It is illegal. You could argue about 10.4 (m) as it is more open to interpretation but 10.4 (e) is not. It is quite clear. And the same touch judges somehow missed Murphy taking out Foden for the try, they missed Murphy throwing haymakers, they quite a bit actually.

3) You mentioned Agulla being near so Ashton had to drag him out. He wasn't doing anything either. I am just pointing out that Lawes and Dickson were closer.

4) Well, it wasn't really the same action. Fair enough, I won't bother arguing over the initial hair pull even though BOD's is quite clearly different. What you can't argue is that BOD did not continue to drag Smith around by his hair.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Alesana Tuilagi and Tom Wood red carded following touchline brawl

(@Casual Observer)

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Alesana Tuilagi and Tom Wood red carded following touchline brawl

What you wrote is a silly argument as a professional player would never do that. And, yes, it is an offence.

10.2 (a) Intentionally Offending. A player must not intentionally infringe any Law of the Game, or play unfairly. The player who intentionally offends must be either admonished, or cautioned that a send off will result if the offence or a similar offence is committed, or sent off.
Sanction: Penalty kick

10.4 (m) Acts contrary to good sportsmanship. A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship in the playing enclosure.
Sanction: Penalty kick

10.4 (e) Dangerous tackling. A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously.
Sanction: Penalty kick

A player must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. A tackle around the opponent’s neck or head is dangerous play.
Sanction: Penalty kick

2 Years, 9 Months ago

Alesana Tuilagi and Tom Wood red carded following touchline brawl

By the way, why do you keep bringing up BOD? Yes he was feisty, but he taunt specific players after scoring, he didn't shout taunts at players on the ground after setting up tries, etc. So if you want to keep talking about BOD fair enough, I don't really understand why you want to though.

2 Years, 9 Months ago

 
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