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Referee Nigel Owens - 'This is not Soccer'

It's not outrageous because we're all used to it, and everyone is effectively brainwashed into accepting that fervent cheating is just part of the game.

If a non-Rugby fan saw this conversation I assure you he'd find your defence of inept refereeing a real laugh.

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Highlights of Toulon vs Clermont, including Rougerie fight & Smith yellow

A card for trying to intercept a pass is silly. It promotes negative play by coercing defenders into sitting back. I don't believe it would lead to people "pretending" to catch balls either. In the only other sport with comparable rule(league) if you go for an intercept and knock the ball on then it's a knock on. Ball back to the other team. The point though is it happens perhaps once a game.

Defending teams should be entitled to defend their line by going for an intercept, otherwise you're taking away incentive for attacking play. People going for intercepts creates gaps for the attacking team anyway, and any team worth their salt would crucify a team that just wanted to rush up for intercepts for the sake of it. That wouldn't happen

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Referee Nigel Owens - 'This is not Soccer'

You can't have your cake and eat it, is what I'm saying. If you want to slam cheats then you must also hold the people who run the game accountable and demand that they enforce the rules as best they can. Instead you concede that you don't want the institutions to enforce the laws anyway, because you want a free-flowing game. Unfortunately it's a case of either-or. Either you support cheating or you don't - It seems you do.

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Referee Nigel Owens - 'This is not Soccer'

Yes, you do. You want the rules enforced(Like American Football), or you change the rules so that we aren't playing a game marred by constant cheating.

You can't blame players for cheating when you're effectively saying that you want a game in which players are allowed to break the law, because a) You don't actually want referees to enforce the rules (ala American football) and b) You don't want the laws of the game changed because that too would change the nature of the game.

I'm not sure how you can disagree with everything I've said, without living in a world where you're unable to self criticise. It's quite obvious that the standards of refereeing in Rugby are terrible, with so many rules broken in the first few minutes of a game that you'll lose count by the 5th. It's also quite obvious that the rules aren't enforced properly. It's quite obvious that Rugby fans don't want a Rugby in which the rules are enforced. It's also obvious that letting a game be marred by unpunished cheating is farcical and reflects badly on Rugby - To actively encourage unpunished cheating as a cornerstone of the game(which you are doing, though I doubt you even realise it), even more so.

To sit here and slam players Pretzel, while then saying "do we really want the game to stop and start like American Football" is a massive hypocrisy on your part. Either you want players to follow the rules and referees to enforce rules or you don't.

Don't slam the bloody players for cheating but then turn around and support the referees and the rugby establishment in NOT enforcing the rules, because you think enforcing the rules will hurt the game lol. If a game is unwilling to police the game properly then cheats will prosper, ala soccer. What you're saying is comical, only a rugby person can't see the ridiculousness of your position. You can't slam cheats while supporting the institutions in the game that encourage cheating and refuse to punish cheating.

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Referee Nigel Owens - 'This is not Soccer'

Refereeing in Rugby is abysmal, some of the worst in the world of sport, players have a right to be annoyed with the amateur nature of Rugby officiating. The problem for Rugby is not that the referees are catching too much flack, it's that Rugby refs are a protected species, because of this silly ethos of taking the respecting of the referees decisions to the extreme.

The problem Rugby is facing is that the rulebook itself is crap, and unworkable. Either the laws are enforced and Rugby fans complain that the game has turned into American Football with the whistle going every 20 seconds, or we change the rules of the game to avoid the former, and then Rugby fans will complain the game is turning into Rugby League.

Rugby as it stands now is farcical, with referees allowing both teams to cheat to avoid a stop-start fest. If a referee was to blow his whistle every time the law was broken all the Rugby fans would complain and the IRB would demote him, even though the referee's role is to police the game. In reality the rules of the game are breached on a professional Rugby field about every 10 seconds.

Owens is a moron too. I bet he planned to say that and was just waiting for an opportunity to get himself back in the spotlight.

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Chris Hala'ufia suspended internally for six weeks after citing for dangerous tackle

There's nothing in it because it was an accident. If you want to ban everyone who accidentally goes high or doesn't wrap properly you'll run short of professional players before the season is over.

I don't see any cheap shots in the video

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Mathieu Bastareaud breaks Agen scrumhalf Alexis Bales

Rugby has gone soft. It's not just one incident every now and then where the refs are gun-ho, it's happening every game, time after time, with a consistence that's not seen in any other aspect of the game.

To think Rugby fans once joked about padding in American Football. Rugby is closer to soccer than real collision sports in 2011.

With the rate the referees are removing physicality from the game, it won't be long until female and male rugby merge and we'll be playing a unisex game. After all, you can't really hurt any one with the soft ref interpretations today - apart from little French players.

5 Years, 11 Months ago

Morgan Parra vs George Chuter, and Manu Tuilagi simultaneous yellow

Neither are a yellow.

5 Years, 11 Months ago

The Matt Hopper reverse pirate pass vs Toulouse

Lol, the complete opposite is the truth. England historically has been terrible at breeding young players. We're far behind most nations in this regard.

6 Years, 1 Day ago

Isa Nacewa's big hit on Dan Hipkiss at the Rec

They're not very costly to a players health though, are they. No more dangerous than a textbook tackle. Arguably less so.

6 Years, 4 Days ago